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Suzi Island wrote:How quickly the democrats went from "safe, legal, and rare" to get as many abortions as you want.[/q[quote=suzi_island;55603119]Bush was a Christian and yet he's responsible for the death of millions in Iraq and Afghanistan

There are such things as:
Christian in name only,
nominal Christian,
being a Christian because one is born into a Christian (or a once Christian) family,
Christian who is woefully ignorant of his faith,
backslidden-ness and
outright apostasy.
There is also Christian in temperament (most of Western Civilization even professed Atheists),
Christian in worldview (much of the West who reject authoritarianism), and
Christian in liberality (being a loving and caring person with the appropriate beneficent indifference required of good governance).

Bush was a sincere Christian who was blind to the history of his faith, and caught in the web of deceit and lies of the deep state (and of his own making). As a person he feared God, but was not given the opportunity to think about his faith by those around him. He did rely on Christian intercessors, and had a prayer and devotional life. He thought about the implication of his actions in light of eternity.

That being said we (Intellectual Christian Conservatives (those of us knowingly conserving Classical Liberalism -- not to be confused with the Leftists bigoted caricature of Fundamentalists (actually Dispensationalists), Americans for Freedom, etc.) disagreed with Bush and Neo-conservatives fundamentally about the role of biblical government -- the government that governs least, governs best. Bush trusted the three letter agencies more than he should have. He was prejudiced against the Reagan Revolution and was instrumental (along with Newt Gingrich) in killing the dismantling of Progressivism (including the Deep State of which Bush was in deep) that we tried to accomplish in Reagans first term. Bush was convinced (like all Neo-Cons -- they are taught that rural America are rubes of the past who must give way to a Progressivist future and the GOP's job is merely slowing the change to Marxism to an absolute crawl). He thought that Rhodes, Keynes, Albright, et. al. and their ideologues were the superior choices. He was also blind to the fact that his father's industrial empire was no longer a part of the American dream but was instrumental in dismantling it.

I hope to live to see people with the attitude and words spoken so far by Vivek Ramaswamay and the silenced (but now working behind the scenes) TEA party (original TEA Party, not the hijacked name used by Sarah Palin and the like (don't get me wrong, I like Sarah as an individual but she was oblivious to the hijacking a legitimate non-partisan (and pro-Libertarian grass movement) that allowed big money investors to astro-turf it into what was when destroyed by the unconstitutional acts of the Obama administration) to return us to a once again Federal Constitutional Republic to the ends of Liberty and Equality.

Those alphabet soup agencies, bureaus, and offices have been pushing Marxian imposed social strictures since the beginning of the Progressivist Era, (even if it wasn't called Woke back then), destroying the moral fabric needed for a free people to remain objectively and really free, not just free subjectively or merely feeling like they are free. The schools we (our faithless government officials) set up in Afghanistan weren't teaching girls to read, write, and think for themselves so as to prepare them to be free women in a free society with all the rights priviliges and immunities that comes with the ethics necessary to be renaissance women enlightened to the vastness of nature and nature's God whilst giving the tools to discover and enjoy life fully as self-governing individuals full of civic virtue, and for whom God must be (if indeed their be such a thing as God). No, they were teaching the Afghan's children how to understand their intersectionality and experiment in sexual deviancy, enslaving the appetites to be useful stooges fit to be slaughtered as the cannon fodder for the (in the woke minds) revolutionary change (in the hubris of the woke minds) for the vanguard (dictatorship of the Woke) when the time was ripe. When Biden cowardly abandoned Afghanistan to our enemies and did what no American ought ever do and still be considered an American -- abandoning our own on a foreign field to the cruelty of of our enemies). Most of those kids that couldn't make it out of the country or be successfully safehoused were hunted down and killed (some very brutally) by the Islamicists.

The other problem that burns my beans is that Americans think we have a State of the United States that runs on American principles and we do not. We have an un-Federalist (and anti-Anti-Federalist) pro-socialist Rhodes-ian foreign policy since WW2, an unconstitutional anti-free enterprise and outright unamerican (Fascist) Modern Monetary Theory policies allowing a cartel of private financiers to run our banks and monetary policy that aren't banks but legalized counterfeiting schemes creating fiat IOU transfer notes masquerading as if they were bone-fide US Treasury certificates since they reneged on the American people in the 1930s (starting in 1913 with the Federal Reserve Act), and don't even get me started on the fully Anti-American and utterly delusional French Dauphin divine right of Kings attitudes proffered by the Establishmentarians with the Millennium Digital Rights Act, SOPA, WTO, ad nauseum, as if the brilliance of their minds and the goodness intentions absolves them from their despotism and makes the harm of their consequences of no consequence. I was going to go into the unamerican corporatism shoved down entrepreneurs throats to shackle and control them for the full fruit of productivity from their endeavors.

Narland gets off his soapbox and apologizes for the long-wordedness.

“Since faith unites us so closely to Christ, it is really the mother of all virtues in us. Where faith is, there Christ is; where Christ is, there is a holy life, namely true humility, true gentleness, true love. Christ and the Holy Spirit are never separated; and when the Holy Spirit is present in a soul there is true holiness. Therefore, where the life is not holy, the sanctifying Spirit must be absent; and if the Holy Spirit be absent, Christ cannot be there; and if Christ is not there, then neither is true faith there.
Any branch that draws not its life and succor from the vine cannot be considered as united with the vine (John xv. 4); so we are not united to Christ by faith unless we derive all our spiritual life and strength from Him.“
Johann Gerhard

Anybody who says that the atheist can be Christian, even culturally, is deceiving themselves. “Cultural Christianity,” Christianity without Christ, is by definition un-Christian. A Christianity without Christ is impossible, and western society today is more the product of first naturalism, and then nihilism, rather than of Christianity.

Narland wrote:I hope to live to see people with the attitude and words spoken so far by Vivek Ramaswamay and the silenced (but now working behind the scenes) TEA party (original TEA Party, not the hijacked name used by Sarah Palin and the like (don't get me wrong, I like Sarah as an individual but she was oblivious to the hijacking a legitimate non-partisan (and pro-Libertarian grass movement) that allowed big money investors to astro-turf it into what was when destroyed by the unconstitutional acts of the Obama administration) to return us to a once again Federal Constitutional Republic to the ends of Liberty and Equality.

Those alphabet soup agencies, bureaus, and offices have been pushing Marxian imposed social strictures since the beginning of the Progressivist Era, (even if it wasn't called Woke back then), destroying the moral fabric needed for a free people to remain objectively and really free, not just free subjectively or merely feeling like they are free. The schools we (our faithless government officials) set up in Afghanistan weren't teaching girls to read, write, and think for themselves so as to prepare them to be free women in a free society with all the rights priviliges and immunities that comes with the ethics necessary to be renaissance women enlightened to the vastness of nature and nature's God whilst giving the tools to discover and enjoy life fully as self-governing individuals full of civic virtue, and for whom God must be (if indeed their be such a thing as God). No, they were teaching the Afghan's children how to understand their intersectionality and experiment in sexual deviancy, enslaving the appetites to be useful stooges fit to be slaughtered as the cannon fodder for the (in the woke minds) revolutionary change (in the hubris of the woke minds) for the vanguard (dictatorship of the Woke) when the time was ripe. When Biden cowardly abandoned Afghanistan to our enemies and did what no American ought ever do and still be considered an American -- abandoning our own on a foreign field to the cruelty of of our enemies). Most of those kids that couldn't make it out of the country or be successfully safehoused were hunted down and killed (some very brutally) by the Islamicists.

Biden literally just did what Trump had already committed to do.

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:Biden literally just did what Trump had already committed to do.

Biden disbanded the Department of Energy? :)

Highway Eighty-Eight wrote:“Since faith unites us so closely to Christ, it is really the mother of all virtues in us. Where faith is, there Christ is; where Christ is, there is a holy life, namely true humility, true gentleness, true love. Christ and the Holy Spirit are never separated; and when the Holy Spirit is present in a soul there is true holiness. Therefore, where the life is not holy, the sanctifying Spirit must be absent; and if the Holy Spirit be absent, Christ cannot be there; and if Christ is not there, then neither is true faith there.
Any branch that draws not its life and succor from the vine cannot be considered as united with the vine (John xv. 4); so we are not united to Christ by faith unless we derive all our spiritual life and strength from Him.“
Johann Gerhard

Anybody who says that the atheist can be Christian, even culturally, is deceiving themselves. “Cultural Christianity,” Christianity without Christ, is by definition un-Christian. A Christianity without Christ is impossible, and western society today is more the product of first naturalism, and then nihilism, rather than of Christianity.

Thanks for pointing him out. I was unaware of him, and will check him out. I have made a response to your post, but am running on 2 hours sleep for the last few days. once I am well rested I will repost it so it doesn't appear so autistic.

I hope I am wrong about the Manhattan, New York, Trump Jury. I hope there is at least one, two or more not guilty votes.

Miami Jai-Alai 3 wrote:I hope I am wrong about the Manhattan, New York, Trump Jury. I hope there is at least one, two or more not guilty votes.

This is a kangaroo court of the 3rd world hell-hole kind. The charges are beyond the statute of limitations, the prosecutor is misconstruing using statutes for the purpose of malicious prosecution as well as claiming false jurisdiction, deprivation of rights under color of both law and authority, the judge is required by statute to step down for conflict of interest, in order for it to be a trial one must be told the nature of the charges as to the facts and the law to present a defense which the court has refused to by saying it may be one of four legal theories. There are at most 4 charges broken into scores of charges. The prosecutor has magically turned misdemeanors into a "resuscitated" felony. Gag orders are specifically to protect the defendant, not to disappear voicing protest of his innocence, like gag the accused like a bunch of Nazi thugs. This is beyond a joke. This is a total subversion of justice by self-righteous ingrates who have shown themselves to be Fascists wannabes, and faithless servants of the People. I don't understand why Trump even showed up. Doesn't NY State have a Common Law remedy for this?

President Trump to Address Libertarian Party Concerns at National Convention May 25th
https://twitter.com/LPNational/status/1785715724973191516
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-address-libertarian-convention-move-has-members-debating-merits

It's a bold move - is it the right one? Will it increase the relevance of the LP and libertarian principles in public discourse? Is this aimed at admonishing the Uni-party? Is Trump going to be conciliatory on some of his policy missteps? Will he proceed to address the Reform Party (for which he ran for presidential nomination in 2000) next?

Fierrol wrote:President Trump to Address Libertarian Party Concerns at National Convention May 25th
https://twitter.com/LPNational/status/1785715724973191516
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-address-libertarian-convention-move-has-members-debating-merits

It's a bold move - is it the right one? Will it increase the relevance of the LP and libertarian principles in public discourse? Is this aimed at admonishing the Uni-party? Is Trump going to be conciliatory on some of his policy missteps? Will he proceed to address the Reform Party (for which he ran for presidential nomination in 2000) next?

Thanks for the heads up.

The Reform Party left Trump and Perot when the Deep State connived Pat Buchannan to run (not that he needed a lot of convincing but he did need their guidance for running). Trump was "Ron-Pauled/Bernie-Sandersed" out of the Reform nomination process. (I can't remember if it was before or after support for the Reform platform from within was subverted (probably before)).

I do not have copies of the Reform Party organizational letters anymore, but I do remember in the Reform Party journals, Trump putting his 2c in for policy and someone in the cmmttee quoting from him a lot. (I was never an active member of the Reformed party but I was very interested in the process of them creating and setting up a national-wide Party). And that -- After all Trump did to help get the Reform Party off the ground, I do not think there is a lot of love between them if he does address them. (Trump does not take well be being back-stabbed / betrayed). My hope is that Trump leans far into the Libertarian side /TEA Party side (original TEA Party -- Audit the Fed, Fair Tax, Ending Income Tax, etc.), and I hope Ramaswamay will be helpful for that.

Narland wrote:This is a kangaroo court of the 3rd world hell-hole kind. The charges are beyond the statute of limitations, the prosecutor is misconstruing using statutes for the purpose of malicious prosecution as well as claiming false jurisdiction, deprivation of rights under color of both law and authority, the judge is required by statute to step down for conflict of interest, in order for it to be a trial one must be told the nature of the charges as to the facts and the law to present a defense which the court has refused to by saying it may be one of four legal theories. There are at most 4 charges broken into scores of charges. The prosecutor has magically turned misdemeanors into a "resuscitated" felony. Gag orders are specifically to protect the defendant, not to disappear voicing protest of his innocence, like gag the accused like a bunch of Nazi thugs. This is beyond a joke. This is a total subversion of justice by self-righteous ingrates who have shown themselves to be Fascists wannabes, and faithless servants of the People. I don't understand why Trump even showed up. Doesn't NY State have a Common Law remedy for this?

to continue the thought -- There are Federal statues for this like 18 U.S. Code § 241, but at this point I trust the feds as much as a trust the Mujahedeen at a Jewish day care center.

Narland wrote:Thanks for the heads up.

The Reform Party left Trump and Perot when the Deep State connived Pat Buchannan to run (not that he needed a lot of convincing but he did need their guidance for running). Trump was "Ron-Pauled/Bernie-Sandersed" out of the Reform nomination process. (I can't remember if it was before or after support for the Reform platform from within was subverted (probably before)).

I do not have copies of the Reform Party organizational letters anymore, but I do remember in the Reform Party journals, Trump putting his 2c in for policy and someone in the cmmttee quoting from him a lot. (I was never an active member of the Reformed party but I was very interested in the process of them creating and setting up a national-wide Party). And that -- After all Trump did to help get the Reform Party off the ground, I do not think there is a lot of love between them if he does address them. (Trump does not take well be being back-stabbed / betrayed). My hope is that Trump leans far into the Libertarian side /TEA Party side (original TEA Party -- Audit the Fed, Fair Tax, Ending Income Tax, etc.), and I hope Ramaswamay will be helpful for that.

I see. That's a sad tale. But I agree that I would like to see Trump lean far into the Libertarian side and to be more conscientious of his duty to protect and defend the Constitution. Conversely, I do hope he doesn't just phone it in - literally or figuratively - or to merely pay lip service. Time is wasting.

I like how the game is still ranking card value even though cards were wiped out. BTW cards were a dumb thing to add

Fierrol wrote:President Trump to Address Libertarian Party Concerns at National Convention May 25th
https://twitter.com/LPNational/status/1785715724973191516
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-address-libertarian-convention-move-has-members-debating-merits

It's a bold move - is it the right one? Will it increase the relevance of the LP and libertarian principles in public discourse? Is this aimed at admonishing the Uni-party? Is Trump going to be conciliatory on some of his policy missteps? Will he proceed to address the Reform Party (for which he ran for presidential nomination in 2000) next?

Economic Libertarians are Conservative Republicans Friends. It would be great if President Trump gets many Libertarian votes in 2024.

I have the nation of Economic Liberteria.

And now Judge Marchan has once again threatened DJT with jail time over his horrible gag order and fined him another 1,000 dollars

Suzi Island wrote:And now Judge Marchan has once again threatened DJT with jail time over his horrible gag order and fined him another 1,000 dollars

The unAmerican authoritarians (a redundancy) in our midst just keep pushing and pushing, and pushing, daring us to knock their spite-filled blocks off. They will reach a breaking point with their lawless behavior, and it will not be pretty when actual men and women retake this country. Trump's lawyers had better use Common Law remedy or they will set precedent for this bad behavior to be used against people who cannot defend themselves against false accusation by petty despots in our midst perverting justice. The judge has impeached his authority. What the faithless servants of the State of New York are committing is de facto treason against the Constitution of the State of New York. Abraham Lincoln said, "The people -- the people -- are the rightful masters of both congresses, and courts -- not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert it." The question is will it be before or after the Democrats destroy the Union. The Democrats failed to destroy the Republic the first time with the Civil War, the second time with Jim Crow and the KKK, the 3rd Time with opposing integration, and this time with their blatant fascist antisemitism, and they just might succeed this time.

Our presumptive 2024 president gets a lot of support in this RMB, and for good reason when it's against banana republic style lawfare and the barrage of spin and fake news from legacy media outlets. But in the spirit of being a social gadfly, I think it's important to keep in mind the ways in which Trump does and has come up short. If nothing else, perhaps this could kindle a spirit to not simply give him a pass on difficult topics, and to help him be better. Good ol' John Stossel has this observation:

The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
https://odysee.com/@johnstossel:7/the-swamp-survived-why-trump-failed-to:c

Fierrol wrote:Our presumptive 2024 president gets a lot of support in this RMB, and for good reason when it's against banana republic style lawfare and the barrage of spin and fake news from legacy media outlets. But in the spirit of being a social gadfly, I think it's important to keep in mind the ways in which Trump does and has come up short. If nothing else, perhaps this could kindle a spirit to not simply give him a pass on difficult topics, and to help him be better. Good ol' John Stossel has this observation:

The Swamp Survived: Why Trump Failed to “Drain the Swamp"
https://odysee.com/@johnstossel:7/the-swamp-survived-why-trump-failed-to:c

Good post.

The main reason the unconstitutional unAmerican Swamp survives is that it is the Legislature that holds the purse strings that metaphorically diverts the river of American freedom and productivity to feed its ecosystem. The President can only do so much, and the courts can Marbury v. Madison. But it is ultimately the People (in enough congressional districts) to elect a House and Senate that have had enough of DC and the Beltway subverting their natural rights. It is important for liberty-lovers to support outright Libertarians (best case scenario), as well as enough Libertarian-leaning Democrats and Libertarian-leaning GOP to have the leverage to undue 100 plus years of anti-Liberty / Neofeudal Progressivism as a course of Statutory authority.

Narland wrote:Good post.

The main reason the unconstitutional unAmerican Swamp survives is that it is the Legislature that holds the purse strings that metaphorically diverts the river of American freedom and productivity to feed its ecosystem. The President can only do so much, and the courts can Marbury v. Madison. But it is ultimately the People (in enough congressional districts) to elect a House and Senate that have had enough of DC and the Beltway subverting their natural rights. It is important for liberty-lovers to support outright Libertarians (best case scenario), as well as enough Libertarian-leaning Democrats and Libertarian-leaning GOP to have the leverage to undue 100 plus years of anti-Liberty / Neofeudal Progressivism as a course of Statutory authority.

You're correct in all of your observations, but the President isn't powerless in these instances, either. He has the power of the Veto, and just as useful, the threat of the Veto. He has the unofficial leadership of his party, and he has the bully pulpit. Of course, the 2016 Congress was pretty poor and the 2018 Congress was even worse. (And using the power of the purse is something the current House is derelict in now.) But he doesn't have to sign every funding bill, nor does he have to promote it as a great accomplishment after the fact.

Post self-deleted by Narland.

Fierrol wrote:You're correct in all of your observations, but the President isn't powerless in these instances, either. He has the power of the Veto, and just as useful, the threat of the Veto. He has the unofficial leadership of his party, and he has the bully pulpit. Of course, the 2016 Congress was pretty poor and the 2018 Congress was even worse. (And using the power of the purse is something the current House is derelict in now.) But he doesn't have to sign every funding bill, nor does he have to promote it as a great accomplishment after the fact.

Absolutely agree. The president can do a lot. Imagine someone with the tenacity and energy of Vivek Ramaswamay turned loose and given authority to administer Executive function on his behalf. Image finding another 10 or 20 Ron Pauls to shadow cabinet positions to dismantle all the waste, fraud, and abuse. He needs to address the nation every opportunity. He (like some of us expected of Reagan) cannot undo the Fabian Socialist Rational Administrative State foisted on us by Dewey, et. al., at the start of the Progressivist Era by himself although he can do a lot. It is still primarily a Congressional priority to recognize that we have a cancer growing on Constitutional governance and administration in order for it's funding to be rightly (and permanently) be excised -- and to appoint competent Liberty loving Constitutional judges each and every time. We have a long uphill battle from here but returning to Lawful governance of Liberty is winnable.

Narland wrote:Absolutely agree. The president can do a lot. Imagine someone with the tenacity and energy of Vivek Ramaswamay turned loose and given authority to administer Executive function on his behalf. Image finding another 10 or 20 Ron Pauls to shadow cabinet positions to dismantle all the waste, fraud, and abuse. He needs to address the nation every opportunity. He (like some of us expected of Reagan) cannot undo the Fabian Socialist Rational Administrative State foisted on us by Dewey, et. al., at the start of the Progressivist Era by himself although he can do a lot. It is still primarily a Congressional priority to recognize that we have a cancer growing on Constitutional governance and administration in order for it's funding to be rightly (and permanently) be excised -- and to appoint competent Liberty loving Constitutional judges each and every time. We have a long uphill battle from here but returning to Lawful governance of Liberty is winnable.

A worthy fight, I hope DJT is the one to start it, buoyed by these unfair communist show trials and others like vivek finish it when his term is up

Suzi Island wrote:A worthy fight, I hope DJT is the one to start it, buoyed by these unfair communist show trials and others like vivek finish it when his term is up

The big plus with Trump is bringing in as many Disestablishmentarians who lean toward Constitutional Liberty. He is the appropriate "loose cannon on deck" or "wrecking ball" to bust up all the unlawful assemblage of infringers upon legitimate liberty. I am supporting him for President, and encourage Him and the Reform Party takeover of the RNC to consider the Constitution and Liberty first and foremost.

The bigger plus is that Trump is the best hope for returning our State of the State to American normalcy, stable global presence, actual peace (as much as can be garnered from a dominant ideology based on hate, conquest, and brigandry), containing Iran, Communist China, and the Globalists (those Globalists who salivate at the thought of a dismantling US, and permanently crippling if not removing (my goal) the overeducated willful ignorami continuing the failed Socialist policies of Rhodes, Keynes, Albright, and return to Monrovian, Washingtonian, Lincoln/Reconstructionist, Reagan, and Trumpian foreign policy, Sound Money and Honest Banking (audit the Fed), returning the right of each and every individual to be their own their own person (privacy and security) and be their own financiers and return to us the right to be our own (in actuality, in law and fact) independent businessmen, which was robbed from me in my lifetime and I am not going to let that one go -- and Trump is the only person in government that I have heard is willing to dismantle what the Marxist damage that LBJ/Nixon/Carter did (technically it was the Democrats and Rockefeller Republicans (and Prgressivists) from Wilson, LBJ, Truman to Clinton in Congress and the next gen of illiberal so-called Liberals, and next gen (Neocons) in Congress) that continue this charade.

And the Biggest Plus, Setting the United States on a course to return to constitutional pursuit of happiness, in domestic, interstate and international trade, industry, and commerce so that we and our children can rebuild our infrastructure (American meaning of infrastructure -- family run and owned shops, stores, industry and industries, factories farms, ranches, mines, timber, and the self-sufficient means to bring the products, goods, and services to the intended markets unfettered and unhindered from saboteurs and thieves outside of government but especially those saboteurs (hinderers and worse) and thieves inside so-called government (the so-called administrative state)_ not the redefined term of infrastructure meaning merely physical plants, roads and communications equipment sans the people who actually build, maintain and use them for their livelihood and leisure (and it isn't you Obama -- you didn't build my farm road, I did (and my family and neighbors) according to MKO engineering standards higher, better lasting and least cost of upgrade and maintenance and we did it without being a burden to the taxpayer). And better than I can get the city in the capital city of my State to abide by for the roads inside its jurisdiction.) .

Trump does have his down side as 1/2 of his original policies as a Reform Party candidate are meant to shore up and expand upon what survives of (my words, he does't see it this way but I hope to convince him of this:), FDR's New Deal, and LBJ/Nixon/Carter expansion of Federal and State private graft systems of awarding private charity in guise of public welfare "personal entitlement" as if it were lawful and compassionate is cruel, demeaning and dehumanizing and creates a permanent underclass dependent upon the ruling class for sustenance and thus forever has their vote. IMO what of it is actually Constitutional is constitutional because it is a matter of local jurisdiction (municipal and county) charitable and indigent services that should have always been an opt-in when necessary as a means of peaceable order, to co-ordinate already established charities (hospitals, hospice care, mentorship and social support) etc. because they are almost always the more if not most efficient, effective, responsive and uniquely equipped to handle the ebb and flow, and do not burden the taxpayer beyond flaws in the local taxpayers own misjudgments in self-governance and legitimate public social contract.

I hope that made sense, I am under the gun timewise and don't have the time right now to redact it down into something smaller and more cohesive. God bless everyone. Pray for the nation.

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